Is It Easy to Take Ceramic Tile Off Wood Floor
Best way to remove ceramic floor tile - preserve hardwood floor underneath.
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I've seen machines that can be rented at home depot etc... that are floor scrapers. Basically a big electric motor that vibrates a metal blade on a wheeled cart. The blade makes contact when pushed under a tile and breaks the mortar and tile into pieces allowing it to be removed.
I suspect there is hardwood floor underneath the tile. Found it when I removed the carpets and it looks like the hardwood continues into the tiled area. I'd like to preserve this floor if possible. Of course I know it would need to be refinished (sanded and polyed). I also understand that the tile removal process may introduce some damage into the hardwood underneath.
So the question is, what is the least damaging method of tile removal I can use that will allow me to preserve the hardwood floor underneath? Any damage that can be repaired with a typical hardwood floor refinishing is acceptable. I guess I would like to avoid deep gouging or breaking floorboards, major damage like that.
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My expirence with tile. If it was poorly applied. You can probably pop them off with demo bars and a hammer and they will come up easily. If they did it the right way when applied, it will most likely destroy whatever is underneath it.
If it were me i would try to pull up the tile in areas where i would think there could be serious hardwood damage underneath first. Sinks, drains, windows. If the hardwood is in bad shape there, i would probably not be as careful when pulling up the rest.
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Talking about a galley kitchen, short hallway and a small dinette. Perhaps 300 sq ft or so worth of floor. Id like to rent a machine and get the job done in a night if possible, would like to get the place on the rental market by December.how much tile are we talking about?
My expirence with tile. If it was poorly applied. You can probably pop them off with demo bars and a hammer and they will come up easily. If they did it the right way when applied, it will most likely destroy whatever is underneath it.
If it were me i would try to pull up the tile in areas where i would think there could be serious hardwood damage underneath first. Sinks, drains, windows. If the hardwood is in bad shape there, i would probably not be as careful when pulling up the rest.
I'll try a corner of the room with a hammer and chisel, see what kind of works this will entail.
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Pretty much what the thread title says. Bought a fixer-upper with some horrid looking floor tiles. Nearly 1 inch thick grout between the tiles that is stained and almost black. Its not worth it to clean such grout and besides, the tile is ugly so it needs to go.I've seen machines that can be rented at home depot etc... that are floor scrapers. Basically a big electric motor that vibrates a metal blade on a wheeled cart. The blade makes contact when pushed under a tile and breaks the mortar and tile into pieces allowing it to be removed.
I suspect there is hardwood floor underneath the tile. Found it when I removed the carpets and it looks like the hardwood continues into the tiled area. I'd like to preserve this floor if possible. Of course I know it would need to be refinished (sanded and polyed). I also understand that the tile removal process may introduce some damage into the hardwood underneath.
So the question is, what is the least damaging method of tile removal I can use that will allow me to preserve the hardwood floor underneath? Any damage that can be repaired with a typical hardwood floor refinishing is acceptable. I guess I would like to avoid deep gouging or breaking floorboards, major damage like that.
there is going to be an underlayment under the tile. tile isn't installed directly to the wood. some poored, some is a form of back board. either one will be a lot of work to remove and saving the floor under it will be a near impossible task...
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I pulled up a kitchen that was probably half that size. 12 x 12 tiles. Rented an electric chisel. Still took two days by the time i got it straightened out.Talking about a galley kitchen, short hallway and a small dinette. Perhaps 300 sq ft or so worth of floor. Id like to rent a machine and get the job done in a night if possible, would like to get the place on the rental market by December.I'll try a corner of the room with a hammer and chisel, see what kind of works this will entail.
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Found that the tiles are stuck directly on to hardwood with some sort of adhesive or something like that. Doesnt seem to be any sort of mortar I've ever seen. Floor looks reasonably good underneath.
Tile needed 4-5 whacks with a standard hammer. I tried cleaning it up with a chisel and got some of the adhesive off.
My question is will this stuff come of with a typical floor sander? I have a guy coming in to sand the other floors and Im wondering if his machine will be able to remove this?
Pics: https://*******/photos/qvWfVHA56KJFxLXw7
WTF?? Why can I not post a link without the forums converting it to some gibberish that a web browser cant connect to?
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FYI, you pics don't work
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They glued tiles? People are incredible in the dumb crap they do.FYI, you pics don't work
I cant post the link. The forum software converts it to some thing as seen in my post that removes the domain name
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Just remove the spaces in this link and it should work. Why cant I post the link and have forum display as is??
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Get some adhesive remover and a good floor scraper and scrape it off.
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And kick the installer in the nuts.Hopefully it's regular latex tile adhesive.Get some adhesive remover and a good floor scraper and scrape it off.
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Meh, I bought a fixer-upper so it is what it is. Who knows how long that wood has been underneath these tiles anyway? Im more surprised the installer laid the tile rigft over hardwood flooring and used glue instead of mortar...And kick the installer in the nuts.
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Will do. Mine is also that way. Original hardwood flooring in a house built in 1890 and covered up by this ghastly carpet. The other hardwood covered up by non impressive tile. I think the floor looks beautiful and will look better once refinishedHeh interesting, I am in exactly the same situation regarding tile over hardwood in a fixer upper. Well, at least I think I am. Rest of the house has hardwood under carpet, so I assume it's under the tile too. I don't close on the house for another 3 weeks, so can't try anything out yet. Please keep updated regarding how you get that adhesive off in case that's what I end up having to deal with.
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The glue was probably a better choice than thinset. More flexible to allow for movement of the wood flooring.Meh, I bought a fixer-upper so it is what it is. Who knows how long that wood has been underneath these tiles anyway? Im more surprised the installer laid the tile rigft over hardwood flooring and used glue instead of mortar...
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I would imagine, but even then I'd imagine playing whack a tile, and getting the adhesive off will be a real PITA. 300 Sq Ft might be doable and end up with a bit of a distressed looking floor afterwards. Sanding it down after might be doable, I did it once years ago in a house and refinished it.The glue was probably a better choice than thinset. More flexible to allow for movement of the wood flooring.
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Its also a hidden blessing. 4-5 whacks with a regular framing hammer and the tile breaks off and chunks can be swept away. I figure about 2-3 hours of hammering and I'll have the hallway cleared.The glue was probably a better choice than thinset. More flexible to allow for movement of the wood flooring.
Or, I can rent this tool from home depot tool rental: http://www6.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/Compact_Floor_Stripper/NS2010/index.html
Its not as beefy as a wheeled floor stripper (such as this: http://www6.homedepot.com/tool-truck-rental/PRO_Floor_Stripper/FCS16/index.html ). Even though, your hands shake like crazy after operating it and you feel beat up after a few hours using this thing. But I have used one before on tile stuck to a wood floor and if you use it correctly, it wont destroy or even scratch the wood floor underneath. I'm thinking it can make even quicker work of a tile floor vs manually hammering.
Just spoke to my flooring guy and he is pretty sure his drum sander can grind away the remnants of whatever this adhesive is. I'll update after my attempts.
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What I used at the time.
Good to hear just cracking the tile and it comes up pretty easy.
Keeping it all even with one is the hard part.
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I wonder if you could use a hair dryer and a paint scraper tool.... :hmm:
Hopefully there is no lead or asbestos in that mixture
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There are trade offs to the less effort and dust though. Odor could be an issue. So could residue if it isn't completely removed/sanded off before applying a new finish.
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Heh interesting, I am in exactly the same situation regarding tile over hardwood in a fixer upper. Well, at least I think I am. Rest of the house has hardwood under carpet, so I assume it's under the tile too. I don't close on the house for another 3 weeks, so can't try anything out yet. Please keep updated regarding how you get that adhesive off in case that's what I end up having to deal with.
Update:
Used standard adhesive stripper from Home depot and the stuff came off pretty easily. More pics added here: https://goo.gl/photos/qvWfVHA56KJFxLXw7
Some things I learned. When the recommendations say to work in a 3ft x 3ft area, listen to these recommendations. The reason why is because if the stripper dries, the adhesive has a tendency to resolidify and adhere again. The process is to paint on a layer of stripper and cover with plastic for half hour. Remove the plastic and get stripping. I got too cocky and thought I could accomplish more than that recommended area only to find I had to re-apply stripper when the mastic got tacky again. An extra set of hands would surely help if you want to go faster and work in a bigger area.
Also this stuff was the "weakest" stuff sold. There are other chemicals that are way stronger and not sold on the shelf; they need to be specially requested from the paint counter (Like tolulene, MEK etc...) . I was even cautioned that those chemicals would affect the wood floor, so I decided against them. Even so, using the weak stripper, one drop unknowingly got on my arm and in less than a minute a strong burning itching sensation began. I had to drop what I was doing and wash my arm with soap. Truly nasty stuff.
Wear goggles, wear a mask with filters that absorb organic solvents (painter's filters) and keep windows open. Use gloves that you can dispose of and wear long sleeves. Also, use a long handled floor scraper so when you initially start scraping, if you splash any stripper, you are not down on your hands and knees. Later after removing the bulk of the mess you can get up an close with a hand scraper.
I'd say this stuff worked pretty well. I would apply a second coat and strip again to remove it all but I think its reasonably good and my flooring guy will sand off the rest. I just wanted to get rid of the big peaks and valleys that would prevent the sanding drum from contacting the floor uniformly.
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